These trucks are real nice although they are not what the description says these seem to be regular lights because the axel is not hollow but still an overall good truck definitely recommendI've been skating thunder trucks for years and they have only gotten better. This model is the lightest truck I've ever used by far and turns better but feels much more stable than an independent.Great trucks. This is my first pair of Thunders after skating Indy’s my whole life. These turn great and grind just as well as Indy. My crooked grind groove is coming in nicely, too. I received my order in a timely manner with no issues.Well made as I remember not twitchy like a indie not as much meat as an indie either.These are a great set of skateboard trucks. My only issue is they weren't the hollow lights that the description says. I got a pair of Lights, with the green bushings.Worth the wait. Thunder rides low compared to Indy’s which I like. Lighter too in my opinion.